JJ Vallow

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303 appearances 1 recordings 1 series first heard Mar 2025 last heard Mar 2025

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Because this is the thing that happens with cults so fucking often. And it's especially prevalent in modern cults. I'm so fucking sick of cults getting cute.
On September 3rd, after Alex set up the Wi-Fi for his and Lori's townhouses, he texted Lori the network name. Alex had called it Anti-Layman, which is, of course, a stupid Mormon thing. Layman being short for Lamanites, the bad guys in the Book of Mormon. But tellingly, the password for the Wi-Fi was TooManyKids, using the number 2, which is weird by itself, but not incriminating.
But in response to the Wi-Fi name and password, Lori wrote, unprompted, that she and Chad were trying to, quote, get to the bottom of what we need to do to eliminate them completely. Which was in reference to the kids.
So now that Chad Dayball and Lori Vallow lived in the same town, they go on walks together on the Brigham Young University, Idaho campus, where Chad would tell Lori to be patient because Tammy was going to die in a car accident any day now.
Chad, however, didn't go by Lori's townhouse just yet because Lori's daughter, Tylee, was understandably upset about uprooting her whole life at the age of 16 because her mother believed herself to be one of God's chosen. And Chad Daybell was pretty much the symbol of everything that was going wrong in Tylee's life.
But Lori would not wait long at all after moving to Rexburg before she took care of Tylee.
No, it's really not. But the problem when they moved to Rexburg is that, you know, Tylee had been this sort of mini-me for so many years, but then Tylee's behavior changed. Yes. Tylee was not doing... Yeah, she's a 16-year-old. She's not doing whatever Lori says anymore. She's being difficult. You know, she's fucking pissed off that she had to move to Rexburg, Idaho.
And I think it's the second, third, maybe fourth time she's had to move in her life. She's fucking sick of it. And Lori does not do well with people giving her any kind of guff.
Exactly. Well, just a week and a day after Lori moved into the townhouse in Rexburg, she and Alex took Tylee and JJ on a day trip to Yellowstone National Park, just an hour and a half drive away. The whole family took a lot of photos on their smartphones where everyone appeared to be happy and having a good time.
But those photos were the last known pieces of evidence that showed Tylee Ryan still alive. As far as what happened to Tylee, we really don't have a clear picture of what went down.
By the time Tylee's body was found, many months after her murder, it was so badly decomposed and had been so thoroughly destroyed that the medical examiner had no choice but to determine the cause of death as homicide by unspecific means. Later investigations, however, used smartphone data and pings on nearby towers to track the movements of Alex Cox.
And using that data, they were able to build a loose timeline of what may have transpired.
So according to the smartphone data, Alex Cox showed up at Lori's townhouse late at night after the trip to Yellowstone, arriving at 2.42 a.m. It's believed that Alex and or Lori murdered Tylee that night, and Alex spent the next hour completely dismembering and beheading Tylee's corpse in Lori's home.
He then took the remains to his own townhouse next door, where he presumably got a couple hours of sleep. Then, at 9 a.m., he left for Chad Daybell's property with Tylee's dismembered body in tow. See, Chad had a good amount of land surrounding his home in Idaho, plenty of room to bury a body, and he'd already chosen a spot to bury Tylee east of his barn.
Chad, the former professional gravedigger, likely dug the hole himself.
Alex believes it's real. Lori believes it's real. Chad most likely has convinced himself that it's real. He's the one who's going to benefit the most. Yeah. And I think there's also, there's a bit of a ritualistic aspect to this, which, you know, I'm going to get into now. And if you want to get into a ritual, you usually have to do that on your own property. Mm-hmm.
We know that Lori, Alex, and Chad Daybell planned this murder together well in advance, because the day after Tylee was killed, Chad had googled what direction the wind would be blowing on the day they were set to dispose of Tylee's corpse. The reason why he googled wind direction was because he and Alex had planned to burn the body before burying it. And this is, you know, possibly two reasons.
It could be to lessen the chances of someone noticing the smell of rotting flesh over time, or it could be, like I said, somewhat of a ritual.
I feel like there's a lot comes down to just totally knows how hard it is to burn a body. Chad was in the fucking dead body business for forever. Do you cremate?
Chad googled the wind direction to make sure that his neighbors didn't catch the scent of human flesh cooking out in the open. And so, after Tylee's body was burned, most likely by Alex, they tossed her decapitated head into the grave first, then poured the still-burning remains into a green bucket. Then they were burning to the point where the bucket melted from the heat.
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