JJ Vallow
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303 appearances
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first heard Mar 2025
last heard Mar 2025
JJ Vallow’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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The bucket was then placed on top of the head, and by 11.45 a.m., Alex was on his way to get lunch at Del Taco. having just buried his niece.
I put Del Taco over Taco Bell. Well, both of you are fucking idiots. I mean, they're both really bad. And we have no business. Like, eating Del Taco or Taco Bell in L.A. is like eating fucking Pizza Hut in New York City.
Yeah, they burned the whole thing. They tried to burn her head. Tried to burn her head, yeah.
Well, he's a former gravedigger. This is what I'm saying. Well, that's the thing. The crematorium and the gravedigger guys, they talk.
Yeah, I don't think they're always talking shop. No, that's why it might be a ritual thing. Or it might just be like, it might just be let's I don't think they were trying to like fully cremate the body. Like I think what Chad Daybell knew is I think Chad Daybell knew about how much decomposing flesh can smell like and how easily it can permeate up through the ground.
And so I think that what they were trying to do was burn the flesh away so it wouldn't smell.
As Henry said last episode, these are Mormons trying to get away with murder, sheltered folk. And from what we've seen over the years, nothing gets you into trouble faster than over-explaining. That, of course, is exactly what Chad did after the disposal of Tylee's body.
After Alex left that day, Chad decided that he needed to explain to his wife what that burning flesh smell was, whether she noticed it or not. So he sent this highly incriminating, unprompted text to ostensibly cover his tracks. And please, verbatim.
I just wanted to come by and tell you not to go down that road.
Just go down. Don't go down that road.
Yeah, it is. It is. Remember what happened in Pet Sematary, too? We all love Clancy Brown. I do.
Yeah. Duck. I'm going to teach you so much. So good. Now, even though Tylee was only 16 years old, Lori told everybody that she was now attending BYU-Idaho. Most people accepted the explanation as to why Tylee wasn't around anymore. So when there weren't a lot of follow-up questions, it seemed like Lori felt safe enough to move on to the task of getting rid of JJ.
See, according to Melanie Gibbs' boyfriend, Chad was telling Lori that JJ was now a zombie who loved Satan. Cool! I knew you'd say that. Yeah! God, that would have been awesome. Lori said she believed Chad's claim because JJ's vocabulary was growing, and he was finally sitting still to watch TV, where he'd never been able to do that previously.
Now, it seems like there was a moment when Lori thought that she might not have to kill JJ. She told podcaster Melanie Gibb that she was going to hand over JJ to his grandmother, Kay Woodcock. She was going to lie to Kay and tell her that she couldn't take care of JJ anymore because she had cancer.
But I think at this moment, Lori got a little too wrapped up in her own story and decided that it was time to practice what she preached. Or she was just lying to Melanie Gibb as she's lied to everybody. Indeed. See, from how Melanie Gibb put it, Lori was overanalyzing everything JJ did. And the only answer Lori seemed to come up with was zombie, zombie, zombie.
Now, in Laurie and Chad's world, leaving someone as a zombie was to doom that person's soul to an eternity in limbo. So just handing off J.J. didn't work with the mythology the Daybell cult had built. So just two weeks after his stepsister Tylee was murdered, J.J. had to go as well.
So on September 22nd, Melanie Gibb and her boyfriend came over to record a podcast with Lori, and they ended up staying the night.
Dan's still doing that, huh? He's been doing that since the old days back in 2010 when we were recording stuff together.
Well, Gib and her boyfriend saw Alex take JJ up to bed before they went to sleep. But when they were packing up to leave the next morning, JJ was nowhere to be seen. Lori quite nonchalantly told them that JJ was being a zombie the night before, after they'd gone to bed. And he climbed up on the fridge and smashed a picture of Jesus.
Then he climbed onto the kitchen cabinets where he got stuck between the cabinets and the ceiling like a fucking cat. So Lori said she'd asked Alex to take JJ over to his place to calm him down. But as we now know, that was the night that Alex killed JJ Vallow. With this one, however, we absolutely know that Lori Vallow was present during whatever it was that transpired.
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