Joanne McNally

So I was sending her links to stuff on TikTok where it shows people like talking about the pain.

It's not a throwaway thing, you know.

It's not like going in and getting your car washed.

If it's still in, yeah, if your new face is still in your basket the next morning, I guess is what we're saying.

Yeah, exactly.

See, I think wonder are they getting away with it because it's like a lift or so, you know, the way, the term plastic surgery, there's a lot you can do without plastic surgery as such.

So they're probably using it as a kind of get out clause, you know.

I don't know.

I don't know is the God's honest truth.

I mean, I think...

Have you seen this, Jo?

So, you know, so there's a kind of a trend in beauty.

You put your mouth, it's like a snorkel, it's like snorkel equipment.

Snorkeling in ice.

To ice bath your face.

Now it took me, my father, God rest his soul, etc.

Took him, I remember evenings up in the bathroom sink.

in the yellow mustard 80s bathroom with the brown carpet upstairs in the old house.

Gorgeous.

And I'd have goggles on and my father would be trying to teach me to keep my head under the water and it was the most traumatic.