Joanne McNally

and Vogue and I are open to receiving handwritten mail yeah and we would actually appreciate it if you would like to anyone who has wronged us in any way shape or form just write Vogue Williams Hoth you can send Joanne's here too and I will pass them on no I'll give Pat's address just in case they're crazy they'll assault Pat and I'll be fine I won't give I'll give Pat's address it's safer for me yeah perfect yeah

Vogue, you and I both decided we're going to have a good chat about the America's Next Top Model scandal in the main.

Oh, God.

When I have mascara on.

Yeah, so it just felt more important to cover Brooklyn but we also feel it's important to cover this because... Also, I do hope that we were met... When I left the pod yesterday and it was like I'd been...

something had kind of passed through me.

It was like I'd done ayahuasca.

I was so high on the adrenaline of the podcast, but I was like, I hope we weren't too hard on him.

Okay, yes, he is still Prince.

He's just kind of rando Harry now, isn't he?

He's rando Harry.

But yeah, so I just...

I just want to add that in, I hope, because we were very worked up and I hope we weren't too harsh on him.

I think they were coming at it from a space of, you know, this male loneliness epidemic.

And there's a lot of men who are, as we call incels, involuntary celibates, who can't find a woman to ride them.

There's a new trend where de-centering men, women are financially secure.

Marriage and kids isn't what it was.

It's all kind of falling apart.

And women are actually quite good at being on their own.

We kind of have our community.