Jodie Hayward

Do you know what I mean?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Exactly.

Exactly.

So trying to outsource something and outsourcing your power as well, essentially, because you're going through this thing and still trying to show up in a certain way.

And it's not congruent.

You're incongruent with it, which is why it just feels like you're rubbing your nails down a chalkboard.

Yeah.

Yes, that incongruency stage, but it takes a while to catch up.

It takes a while for what I call the landing.

Do you know what I mean?

And I think that especially with the wing woman side of things, it's being able to hold space.

whilst holding the business at a certain level whilst the ceo is able to go through that do you know what i mean i mean having for me a wing woman is someone who is a sounding board a strategic partner who is a friend

who's going to call you out on your bullshit, right?

Who's going to mirror the energy back to you?

Who's going to call you up to your next level, but also go, what are our KPIs and metrics this month?

Like, how are they feeding into X, Y, Z and the business goals?

Great.

You've had another idea.