Joe Hudson

I was obsessed with it.

And I just, well, at the time it was called, what am I?

But for me now, it's what am I essentially?

And it just like,

And so that was where I was.

I was just completely there doing that thing, worrying about money and married with a wife who's like, what are you doing?

Like, what's going on?

She did not understand the journey at the time.

She had her own journey too.

And so we had very different ways.

And she was kind of, she was definitely more on the heart journey and I was more on the head journey.

And she used to make fun of me.

You know, it was, she'll hate this story, but I love this story.

She had nicknames for all the gurus that I would read.

Like, you know, Stephen Harrison was somebody I really loved.

She called him Bean Boring and Papaji was Punjab Potatoes.

And she had a nickname for everybody.

And she'd say things like, tell me about your spiritual process because I'm tired and I need to go to sleep.

Like that would be the thing.

So it wasn't a lot of support and it was all in fun.