Joe King

Which is funny because then five years later they reverse course and, you know, and that's what you do because it's like, come on.

I mean, we're artists.

We got to like, we got to eat.

So I remember wrestling with it and then we just were like, all right, let's just do it.

Do it.

Just say yes to this and.

And then it became like, it's just like, then there was like Scrubs and so many different like syncs.

And I was like HBO and like just blown away with like how our music was being used, you know.

And it didn't take anything away from like the integrity of the band.

You know, because we didn't write the songs for them.

for those shows.

We wrote them because they were true.

And they came from, like we were talking about, they came from questions.

In fact, it's funny because my publisher, I remember signing my first publishing deal and it was before any of the syncs came through.

We sat down to have the meeting when they heard the record, and they told me, they were like, we don't think there's anything on here that's licensable.

It's just not a sync record.

There's no syncs, you know, sync songs.

And I was like, okay, well, why do we meet today?

Right.

Could have been an email.