Joe Loya

And then you get to the thing, right?

You get to the payoff.

Well, for us criminals,

And part of our impulsivity comes from the fact that we don't have a goal.

We don't have that thing.

We're just doing, what do I need now?

What do I need now?

What do I need now?

So I got to there through my childhood, which even though in many ways, I was very fortunate in that I had a lot of love early on.

I was raised in some private schools.

My mom and dad got married when they were 16.

They were, my dad was an ex-gang member, now a Christian, Protestant Christian in East LA, which was all a sea of brown Catholics.

It's very odd to be those people.

But we lived in the East LA Montevideo housing projects.

We were very poor, but ambitious.

My dad was very ambitious.

My dad becomes a Christian, and he discovers that he loves the language.

He wants to study Greek.

He wants to study Hebrew.

So he becomes this little brown, academic, little nerdy guy who wants to learn the languages of the Bible so he can read in the original language.