Joe Natoli
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494 appearances
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1 series
first heard Jun 2026
last heard 4 Aug
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MAKING UX WORK: The Joe Natoli Podcast · You Can't Reason People Out of Their Fear. · 4 Aug 2026
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They're overwhelmed by their own feeling.
So you can't shame them into clarity, but you can certainly lead them there.
Your ability to empathize with all those other folks, the business side of the house, stakeholders, is every bit as critical as your ability to empathize with users.
Remember that you're not just solving design problems.
You're solving emotional puzzles.
Okay?
You're dealing with the mess of every single person that you're coming in contact with.
They're bringing that shit into interactions with you.
Now, if that feels unfair, that's because it is.
But it's also real.
Okay?
You got to stop trying to win every argument with perfect logic.
It's not going to happen.
Start trying to build trust instead.
if I've learned anything over my career, it is that trust is absolutely what makes change possible.
Here's a harsh truth that they don't tell you in any design or UX school.
Being good is not enough.
Your work can be clean, thoughtful, well researched, deeply user centered, and still be ignored, still get steamrolled, still never see the light of day.
And no, it's not because you suck.
Is because this job is about more than the work.
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