Joe Polish

Well, Tommy is dancing with fear in a different way where it is somehow empowering him, whereas other people, it's disabling them. And then get in the game. You said get in the game. And I'm like, okay, so how do you design that game? And what are the killers that are going to keep that? So that's all the stuff that's going through my head before you get to the three tiers of goal setting, right?

Well, Tommy is dancing with fear in a different way where it is somehow empowering him, whereas other people, it's disabling them. And then get in the game. You said get in the game. And I'm like, okay, so how do you design that game? And what are the killers that are going to keep that? So that's all the stuff that's going through my head before you get to the three tiers of goal setting, right?

So it's like, yeah.

So it's like, yeah.

You know what I got to speak to that too. So like years ago, I did this video that's on YouTube with Robin Sharma. And he wrote a book called many books, but he wrote the 5am club. And I interviewed him when he was working on the 5am club before it came out. And I also coauthored a book of the miracle morning for addiction. recovery. And I am more predominantly like a nocturnal person.

You know what I got to speak to that too. So like years ago, I did this video that's on YouTube with Robin Sharma. And he wrote a book called many books, but he wrote the 5am club. And I interviewed him when he was working on the 5am club before it came out. And I also coauthored a book of the miracle morning for addiction. recovery. And I am more predominantly like a nocturnal person.

I'd rather, but you're all, I can, I know I can call you at six o'clock in the morning. You're one of the few people I know I call at that time. Well, yeah, what's funny. So like I was talking to my buddy, Dean Jackson and who you've had on your podcast. Yeah. And it's like, if you want a 5am club, it's really a 9pm club.

I'd rather, but you're all, I can, I know I can call you at six o'clock in the morning. You're one of the few people I know I call at that time. Well, yeah, what's funny. So like I was talking to my buddy, Dean Jackson and who you've had on your podcast. Yeah. And it's like, if you want a 5am club, it's really a 9pm club.

Because if you try to get up at 5 a.m., but you're going to bed at 1 in the morning, you're just going to be exhausted. And so part of it is, so you just described your flow in the morning, doing the hardest thing. What happens before you go to bed? An hour, two hour, whatever. Is there anything that you could... you can share here that would be useful because Tommy does the same thing.

Because if you try to get up at 5 a.m., but you're going to bed at 1 in the morning, you're just going to be exhausted. And so part of it is, so you just described your flow in the morning, doing the hardest thing. What happens before you go to bed? An hour, two hour, whatever. Is there anything that you could... you can share here that would be useful because Tommy does the same thing.

Tommy has his rituals, but there's before bed and there's after, but he says the most important thing is sleep. So what's happening before?

Tommy has his rituals, but there's before bed and there's after, but he says the most important thing is sleep. So what's happening before?

It was funny because I've spent a lot of time with Richard. Yeah, you have. I spent six weeks on his island.

It was funny because I've spent a lot of time with Richard. Yeah, you have. I spent six weeks on his island.

And so, like, to me... And that would probably also include social media.

And so, like, to me... And that would probably also include social media.

Any sort of screen time.

Any sort of screen time.

So like a Kindle or whatever would not allow that?

So like a Kindle or whatever would not allow that?