John Barnes

Because look against Serbia when he didn't have them.

And look how well they played.

Now all of a sudden, they all come back, Bellingham on phone and all.

Is he then going to resist to put them in?

You know what I mean?

It takes a big man to do that.

So therefore, when I look at the men, because of course, you know, you're similar ages to Jamie and Maka and all of them.

So you have this, and they have this Spice Boys image.

And I know because of course, at Manchester United, not saying that you would have been one of them, but you look at Giggs and Becks and stuff.

If Fergie wasn't strict with them, they could have, you know, Giggs liked a night out, Becks and whatever.

So Fergie was very strong.

Whereas Liverpool's way was, we do not, A, we do not coach you.

And we do not tell you how to live your life.

But when you come to training on a Monday, you could be doing whatever you perform.

now that's fine if you're experiencing you know what but you know so that philosophy is not good for young players because Liverpool never had young players they'd always sign one or two players and mixing with the old players and you learn the Liverpool way when all of a sudden you know they had five or six young players coming in and

Premier League was kind of changing to make them kind of like the superstar thing, going out to London and nights out and stuff.

And I know that Fergie would have had a problem if he wasn't as strong with some of the younger players at Man United.

So I think the Fergie factor kept Man United like that.

And the Liverpool, I can't say Man United factor because I don't know whether Ron Atkinson or whatever would have been different, but I think Fergie was like that.

Whereas the Liverpool thing was always, we don't care what the players do.