John Barnes

But when you experience a Souness and Dalglish, you know when to get drunk, you know when to do what you want.

I think so.

As much as you say it was controlled, it was controlled by Fergie.

Because listen, I know Rob, we used to go out with him.

Rob Owen and Paul McGrath and Norman Whiteside.

So of course, if you're a young player and you're not being controlled by a figure like that...

as much as a bit different because I don't know whether the peer pressure was on you because I know what it's like even growing up you know people go come on have a drink and if you're not if you remember with Sir Alex with gigs in Sharp he turned up at the house yeah yeah yeah on yeah and literally dragged gigs out literally put him basically that was like I said you don't look at Liverpool if you didn't if you didn't want they didn't really trust you if you didn't want to go out and have a drink pre-season you know we're going out yeah

Players who don't go out, even the staff were like, what's the matter with them?

You know what I mean?

It was a completely different way.

Now, the problem was when you have experienced players, yes, you can go out, you can have a drink, but you know what to do, you know when to... For youngsters, you can't just allow them to do whatever they want, particularly if you're going to influence them in that way.

And at Liverpool, the Liverpool way was you do whatever you want.

The difference is that I remember even after Christmas parties, even after a night out, when you came into training, you couldn't not train better than everybody else.

As much as, you know, you could be sick behind the thing because you haven't had a drink, you couldn't then all of a sudden not turn up and train.

Because look what Wenger did with Tony Adams and people like that.

So therefore the point I was making, and that's a bit later, when I was at Liverpool, say three, four years earlier, the reason Liverpool were the best were because, okay,

good footballers, but everybody was doing that.

Now, once one team stopped doing it, they would have an advantage.

That's what happened to us.

Yeah, I agree.