John Barnes

Because it's like... So, yeah, so I don't think that... Liverpool always looked at the character of the players without needing to be obviously vociferous and, come on, let's get going and stuff like that.

Because I...

I think a lot of that is just for show as well.

You know what I mean?

If you're like that, you're like that.

But for me, that didn't influence me or...

What they bought players at 23, 24, having had six, seven years somewhere and you look really good, bring one or two youngsters in.

Now, all of a sudden, when you just get a whole group of youngsters in, and we had that conversation, you had a whole group of youngsters but you had Fergie.

When you have a whole group of youngsters coming into a Liverpool way where youngsters are going to be left to their own devices, that's a wrestle.

Yeah, but Gary was there for like five, six years before he... How old was Jamie?

Jamie was young, but Jamie never got on the team for like two, three years.

He came in later because... Jamie joined in 91, Jamie?

Yeah, he came in 91, but he wasn't a regular fixture, so he came in just to be part of it.

And then you learnt from what you saw.

You know, learning from what you see from a training perspective.

Rushie.

That doesn't happen anymore.

Rushie didn't get in the team straight away and he cost 300 grand from Chester, which is a lot of money.

But he had to sit and learn and watch and learn the Liverpool way and, you know, work hard and run.

I remember Rushie said to me, you know, he came in and he played really well.