John Gafford

When you were growing up, dude, were you a Bells kid?

Like, how was home?

What was that like growing up?

So many of those small towns are.

Marry your high school girlfriend, buy a house three blocks away from your parents.

Like how many people did you go to high school with, literally married their high school girlfriend and live within a mile of their parents?

I'm going to ask you a question, dude, because growing up in a small Southern town, as I did, right?

Yeah.

You were kind of, this is an interesting kind of dynamic for you that probably shaped how you were because here you are, you're playing football and,

Where I was, there was a definitive line for the football players did not exactly run around with the band kids.

That did not happen at all.

So here you are.

You're kind of straddling both worlds a little bit.

And baseball.

And baseball.

So you're a jock, but you're also playing music in the band with, you know, the people that might not be the most popular people.

Did you feel like you didn't really, okay, so you definitely didn't fit in with the jocks at that point when you were in medical training.

I agree.

I agree with that, bro, because you come to a place, especially like a big city like Vegas.

And one of the things about living here is,