John Gafford

So when somebody comes to you now, obviously very different than what you do is what 12-step programs do.

So where do you start with people that have addiction issues?

Like, where do you start?

So real quick though.

So how hard is that question?

Then when you ask people, are you willing to do anything to stop drinking?

Well, it's, it's interesting now that if you look at kids today are not drinking as much, the new, the new generations, Gen X is not drinking as much as previous generations.

Um, what, but, but, but I think, I think addictive personalities are going to find something.

So what are you seeing that would you say is like the biggest risk the next generation to get addicted to?

So what should parents do?

Because obviously, you know, I got two kids.

One of them is 18, one of them is 16.

And we try to – you know, you do the best you can.

We're trying to limit it.

But you never know if it's enough.

And I think, you know, everywhere you look anymore, like you see a couple sitting – I saw a couple sitting at dinner the other day, and both of them were sitting there at dinner with each other like this.

And I'm like – I look at my wife, I go, that's crazy.

I mean, yeah, how do you – I mean, obviously –

There's times when I find myself, quote unquote, doom scrolling, and you're just like, I got to get off.

And like, literally, I will throw my phone across the room because I'm like, I got to get away from that thing.