John Gafford

There's nothing better.

That was awesome.

We'll nerd out on drum sets after this.

Everyone's like, what are these guys even talking about right now?

Anyway, so...

So you drive 14 hours for one gig.

I'm guessing that goes pretty well.

Hang on a second, though.

Let's talk about that because there's a lesson in that, dude, because a lot of people, you know, when opportunity knocks like that,

they don't see it as an opportunity to see this.

This isn't a great opportunity, but you saw it as the door creeping open.

So what about that?

Were you willing to say, Hey man, this is a lot of, this is a lot for one, one crack.

Skip it over this, but it's telling you, bro, this is genius because so many people look at opportunity, right?

It's like, it's a zero sum game.

It's a winner.

It's a loss.

I'm going to succeed or I'm going to fail.

And that's the two results that I have from, from chasing this opportunity.

And you look at it as, I don't really, if it works out cool, if it doesn't cool, but I'm gonna have a great story.