John Kiriakou

And that attitude has really never changed.

Why do you think that is?

It doesn't make any sense.

It's old think, Tucker.

It's old think, where instead of saying, our job is to disrupt any threat to the United States.

Yes, that's what I thought the job was.

Their view is, our job is to disrupt any Islamist, communist, fascist, whatever foreign official threat.

challenge to the united states whether it's governmental or it's an organized terrorist group they're just not thinking about the cartel so it sounds like they're doing what all organizations do ultimately which is to protect themselves yes it's all about kingdom building i will say i i wrote a piece i don't even remember for whom when president trump

first declared um that the drug cartels would be reclassified as foreign terrorist groups and everybody was laughing and making fun and how silly this was i said no no no no you're underestimating him he knows exactly what he's doing it's not he's not doing this for the pr of of naming the cartels as terrorist groups he's doing it because legally it frees up um

It frees up some agencies' abilities to act unilaterally against the cartels.

And it frees up a great deal of money to be used by CIA, NSA, DOD against the cartels.

I said, this is a big deal.

This is not window dressing.

Did it have any effect?

I think not yet.

Yeah.

Not yet.

Frankly, the army of people that we put against terrorism after 9-11 is what we need to do against drugs.

I think that's the most important point.

Yes, I agree.