John Kiriakou

I said, yeah, give me an hour.

I need an hour to think about it.

I walked out of the cafeteria.

I went up to the seventh floor, which is the executive floor.

And there was a very, very senior officer up there for whom I had worked 10 years earlier in the Middle East, knocked on his door, no appointment or anything.

And I said, hey, I need some advice.

I was just asked if I wanted to be trained in these enhanced interrogation techniques.

What do you think of that?

And he said, first of all, let's call a spade a spade.

He said, this is a torture program.

They can use whatever euphemism they want, but this is a torture program and torture is a slippery slope.

He said, you know how these guys are.

Somebody's going to be a cowboy.

They're going to go overboard and they're going to kill a prisoner.

And when that happens, there's going to be a congressional investigation.

Then there's going to be a Justice Department investigation and somebody is going to go to prison.

Do you want to go to prison?

I said, no, I don't want to go to prison.

As it turned out, I was the only person who went to prison.

But I said, no, I don't want to go to prison.