John Kiriakou

No, because you always, always have to consider the potential for blowback.

Unintended consequences, responses that you haven't fully thought through.

Yeah.

Blowback is a problem.

No.

I think not.

Only because it's always been so hard for Iranians or Iranian proxies to get visas to come to the United States.

So, you know, these rumors, I think they came from the FBI right after the conflict began that there's a cell in Honolulu, there's a cell in Detroit.

No, there aren't.

If there were, you'd just grab them instead of just- Well, that's but to say, why are you telling me about cells?

Exactly.

I remember when I was still with the CIA driving down First Avenue in New York and with two FBI agents, one of them said, you see that storefront?

That's the headquarters of Hezbollah's cell in New York.

And I said, well, why don't you do something about it?

They're a terrorist group.

What did he say?

Taking me on a tour for.

Just go kick the door down and grab them if it's the headquarters of Hezbollah's terrorist cell.

And they just kept driving.

Like I didn't understand.