John Kiriakou

And then we tell Rashid, hey, listen, we were talking about Abdullah with Mohammed.

You know, Mohammed's one of our guys.

And he told us that Abdullah was a bad guy.

And then Rashid kills Mohammed.

And then by the end of the year, this terrorist group doesn't exist anymore.

And the FBI guy said, oh, my God, that's so illegal.

We couldn't possibly do that.

And I was like, oh, it never even occurred to me that that might be illegal.

So the FBI does kind of pay closer attention, at least they're supposed to, to what's legal and what's not legal.

But with the CIA operating overseas, you know, who cares what's legal and what's not legal?

Wonderful show.

Oh, yes, yes, yes.

That show was written and created by Joe Weisberg.

Joe was a colleague of mine in the CIA's Counterterrorism Center.

He was a brilliant writer.

And I went to the office one day and he walked up to me and he said, hey, listen, I quit this morning.

And I was like, what?

Why would you do that?

And he said, this job is just not for me.

I'm not married.