John Kiriakou

Yeah, but I think the...

I think that the attack on Iran has galvanized the Iranian public.

The government was not a house of cards.

We are not gonna be seen as liberators.

We're gonna be seen as attackers and possibly occupiers.

And I think that's the most immediate challenge we're gonna face.

But coming back to Hillary Clinton, the reason why it didn't is that it's not actually a theocracy.

It's a military dictatorship.

I think you and I are the only ones who haven't been.

We're the only people who know that.

Yes.

And we haven't been to Iran.

So many of my friends have been to Iran relatively recently before the hostilities began.

And they posted videos on YouTube of just walking down the street in Tehran and the restaurants are open and the cafes and there's music and people laughing and having late dinners.

And it's just normal life.

I think that's exactly right.

We've forced them together.

We really have.

Look at it this way.

If I don't like whoever happens to be in the White House and I go to demonstrations and my fist is in the air and I don't like this person's policy and then the Russians attack, I'm going to pick up a gun and I'm going to fight the Russians.