John Kiriakou
๐ค SpeakerAppearances Over Time
Podcast Appearances
Can't you be a dentist or something?
And I said, Dad, I'm serious.
I want to be a spy in the Middle East.
And so I became a spy in the Middle East, and I loved every minute of it.
I learned to speak fluent Arabic.
I immersed myself in the culture, the history, the poetry, and the literature, and...
And succeeded there.
It was decidedly trending.
The Iranian, the Shah of Iran had been overthrown.
The Ayatollahs had come into power and they took the American embassy and then held 55 American diplomats hostage for 444 days.
And I was obsessed with this hostage crisis and wanted to learn as much about the Middle East as I could.
I can't tell you why I was more interested in
in the Arab side of things than the Iranian.
But Arab culture just has always fascinated me.
And even when I was in college, I went backpacking one summer with my girlfriend.
We spent three months and she wanted to go to London and Paris and Rome.
And we did all that.
But then we also went to, you know, Istanbul and Jerusalem and Cairo at my insistence.
And
I was hooked.