John Kiriakou

And he said that there is no torture.

I knew he was lying.

And then another two days later, it's Friday.

And he's walking from the South Portico of the White House to the helicopter to go to Camp David for the weekend.

And a reporter shouts another question about torture.

And this time he stops and he turns and he says, well, if there is torture, it's because of a rogue CIA officer.

And I said to my wife, Brian Ross's sources at the White House, and they're going to pin this on me.

so i called brian ross and i said i'll give you your interview and i decided in the whatever it was why did you think they were going to put it on you because they were calling you the human rights guy so that you were going to be a patsy and i was not willing to assume that i assumed yeah because that's just your experience with the organization oh yeah they're going to leave somebody out to dry to protect themselves so i called brian ross i said i'll give you your interview

And I decided that whatever he was gonna ask me, and he never told me in advance what he was gonna ask me, I was just gonna tell the truth.

And so he met me at the ABC News studios on DeSales Street in Washington.

And I said three things in that interview.

that changed the course of the rest of my life.

I said that the CIA was torturing its prisoners.

I said that torture was official US government policy.

It was not the result of any rogue officer.

And I said that the policy had been personally approved by the president himself.

And then, as you can imagine, within 24 hours, the CIA files what's called a crimes report against me with the FBI saying that I had revealed classified information.

The FBI then investigates me from December of 07 to December of 08.

And then they send my attorney a letter called the declination letter declining to prosecute.

They said that they had completed their investigation, that the information was already out there because of Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch and the Red Cross.