John Kiriakou
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And he said that he had a source who said I had tortured Abu Zubaydah.
I said that was absolutely false.
I was the only person who was kind to Abu Zubaydah.
I said I've never laid a hand on Abu Zubaydah or any other prisoner.
And he said, well, you're welcome to come on the show and defend yourself.
Well, I had never spoken to a reporter before.
I didn't know that was a reporter's trick.
So I said, I'll think about it.
In the meantime, President Bush, I remember it being a Monday.
President Bush gives a press conference and.
The International Committee of the Red Cross had said in a paper that the CIA was torturing prisoners.
Human Rights Watch said CIA is torturing prisoners and Amnesty International said CIA is torturing prisoners.
So a reporter says, look, all these international human rights organizations are saying that the CIA is torturing its prisoners.
What's your response to that?
And the president looks right in the camera and he goes, we do not torture like that.
And I said to my wife, who was a senior CIA officer, I said, he is a bald-faced liar.
He's looking the American people right in the eye, and he's lying to us.
And she said, are you surprised?
Well, then on Wednesday, two days later...
He gets another a similar question.