John Kiriakou
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There is such a thing as permanent interests.
This is our interest and this is what we're gonna do.
And that's just not, it doesn't seem to be the case today.
I don't understand why,
how attacking Iran was in U.S.
national interest.
I fully understand how this was in Israel's interest, and the Israelis have long wanted us to attack Iran and to overthrow the regime in Tehran.
I get that.
It's in their interest.
But...
I've never believed, I don't think any CIA officer, past or present, believes or has believed that the Iranians were anywhere near a nuclear weapon.
They don't have a delivery system that could deliver a nuclear weapon to the United States.
And when you've got two national intelligence estimates...
A national intelligence estimate is a sense of the entire intelligence community, all 18 organizations within the U.S.
intelligence community, unanimously concluding that there is no Iranian nuclear weapons program twice, as well as the late... There's no program.
No program.
No, Ayatollah Khamenei issued a fatwa in 2003, declaring it a sin to develop a nuclear weapon.
And then the CIA twice said they don't have a nuclear weapons program.
Right.
but sometimes you can take things seriously.