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John Kiriakou

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The Tucker Carlson Show
The 9/11 Files: From Tragedy to Tyranny | Ep 5

He was arrested, he confessed, he pointed the Pakistani authorities to Daniel Pearl's torso, and he was sentenced to life in prison.

The Tucker Carlson Show
The 9/11 Files: From Tragedy to Tyranny | Ep 5

But Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, during torture at the hands of CIA officers, also confessed to killing Daniel Pearl.

The Tucker Carlson Show
The 9/11 Files: From Tragedy to Tyranny | Ep 5

We knew he didn't kill Daniel Pearl, but the torture was so severe, he was telling his CIA interviewers, interrogators, anything that he thought they wanted to hear just to get them to stop torturing him.

The Tucker Carlson Show
The 9/11 Files: From Tragedy to Tyranny | Ep 5

Waterboarding has received the most media attention.

The Tucker Carlson Show
The 9/11 Files: From Tragedy to Tyranny | Ep 5

It's actually quite simple.

The Tucker Carlson Show
The 9/11 Files: From Tragedy to Tyranny | Ep 5

You strap a prisoner to a board.

The Tucker Carlson Show
The 9/11 Files: From Tragedy to Tyranny | Ep 5

His feet and legs are elevated compared to his face.

The Tucker Carlson Show
The 9/11 Files: From Tragedy to Tyranny | Ep 5

Cloth or burlap or something is put in his mouth to keep him from drowning.

The Tucker Carlson Show
The 9/11 Files: From Tragedy to Tyranny | Ep 5

And while his head is immobilized, water is poured on his mouth.

The Tucker Carlson Show
The 9/11 Files: From Tragedy to Tyranny | Ep 5

So, of course, water is going to get

The Tucker Carlson Show
The 9/11 Files: From Tragedy to Tyranny | Ep 5

through the cloth and get down your throat, and it makes you feel like you're drowning.

The Tucker Carlson Show
The 9/11 Files: From Tragedy to Tyranny | Ep 5

It causes panic.

The Tucker Carlson Show
The 9/11 Files: From Tragedy to Tyranny | Ep 5

You tense your muscles to the point where it becomes painful.

The Tucker Carlson Show
The 9/11 Files: From Tragedy to Tyranny | Ep 5

And in the case of one prisoner, Abu Zubaydah, Zayn al-Abidin Muhammad Hussein,

The Tucker Carlson Show
The 9/11 Files: From Tragedy to Tyranny | Ep 5

He actually did drown, his heart stopped beating, and he had to be revived by a CIA doctor performing CPR so that he could be tortured more.

The Tucker Carlson Show
The 9/11 Files: From Tragedy to Tyranny | Ep 5

I never thought waterboarding was the worst technique.

The Tucker Carlson Show
The 9/11 Files: From Tragedy to Tyranny | Ep 5

I thought that there were others that were worse.

The Tucker Carlson Show
The 9/11 Files: From Tragedy to Tyranny | Ep 5

Now, the easiest technique was called the attention grasp.

The Tucker Carlson Show
The 9/11 Files: From Tragedy to Tyranny | Ep 5

You grab somebody by the shirt and say, answer my questions.

The Tucker Carlson Show
The 9/11 Files: From Tragedy to Tyranny | Ep 5

That's not torture.