John Kiriakou
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And so I said, I'd think about it.
Well, that was on a Monday.
On Wednesday, President Bush gave a press conference and one of the reporters there asked him about these rumors that the CIA was torturing prisoners.
And he looked right in the camera and he said, we do not torture prisoners.
And I said to my wife, who was a senior CIA officer, I said, he's a bald-faced liar.
He's looking the American people right in the eye, and he's just lying to us.
Two days later was Friday.
The president leaves the White House from the South Portico, the back door of the White House.
And he's walking to the presidential helicopter to go to Camp David for the weekend.
And a reporter shouts a question about torture and the CIA.
And he stops and he turns and he says, well, if there is torture, it's because of a rogue CIA officer.
And I said to my wife, Brian Ross's source is at the White House and they're going to pin this on me.
So I called Brian Ross and I said, I'll give you your interview.
And I decided that no matter what he asked, I was simply going to tell the truth.
And I'm proud to say that.
I brought down torture in the United States.
John McCain, God bless his soul, I probably disagreed with John McCain on 99% of the issues, but he became my champion in the US Senate.
And he wrote what became the McCain-Feinstein Amendment, banning torture.
And then while I was at prison,
I was incarcerated.