John Regalado

And so, yeah.

And then at the same time, it's so hard for them to kind of make this argument of why it's racist on television.

And you see clips go viral where, you know, they can't quite articulate it in the right ways.

So I totally hear what you're saying, where it's like,

it's bad faith or it's intellectually dishonest from the get go, but it's a strategy.

It's like, we can't let this pass because then we lose a few inches.

Right.

Well, that was something, you know, Tallarico brought up was gerrymandering in his response to you.

Now, did you take that seriously?

Do you think he would really want to, even if it was to his own side's, you know, disadvantage and gerrymandering?

Did that feel sincere?

Most Americans, maybe even like 90% of Americans would agree with that sentiment of like, you know, people seem like they have the right intentions in mind.

And

some sort of erosion happens.

I'm curious, you clearly spend a lot of time engaging with American politics.

on you know an analytical level through the content that is you know everywhere in our culture um have you ever considered participating in more of kind of like you know like i want to run for office or i i want to you know work in the system to to better understand it has that ever been interesting to you uh i've toyed with the idea but in in from different angles i've thought about

Right, right.

Okay, I'm going to pull up this next clip because I'm going to dig into this with you because this is what's most interesting.

This is one of the most interesting things you said, and it's at the very end of the episode.

and convicted argument to not vote.