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Jonathan Courtney

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The Startup Ideas Podcast
How to build a $20m sales funnel from scratch

Um, there's a lot of places where maybe funnels don't make sense, but if you're selling what, what we sell is we sell, uh, training to corporates, which can be pretty high ticket. We also sell training to individuals, which up to, you know, $14,000 per participant joining one of our trainings. We also, of course, sell then digital hybrid coaching versions of that.

The Startup Ideas Podcast
How to build a $20m sales funnel from scratch

So from about 5,000 euro or $5,000 to open-ended, that's our range of things we're selling. But we're not trying to be like You know, we're not like a Michelin star restaurant that has to have the branding perfect everywhere. So, yeah, funnels are where we then most people find out about us through a funnel and how our funnels work. Again, completely separate to the website. In fact, unrelated.

The Startup Ideas Podcast
How to build a $20m sales funnel from scratch

So from about 5,000 euro or $5,000 to open-ended, that's our range of things we're selling. But we're not trying to be like You know, we're not like a Michelin star restaurant that has to have the branding perfect everywhere. So, yeah, funnels are where we then most people find out about us through a funnel and how our funnels work. Again, completely separate to the website. In fact, unrelated.

The Startup Ideas Podcast
How to build a $20m sales funnel from scratch

So from about 5,000 euro or $5,000 to open-ended, that's our range of things we're selling. But we're not trying to be like You know, we're not like a Michelin star restaurant that has to have the branding perfect everywhere. So, yeah, funnels are where we then most people find out about us through a funnel and how our funnels work. Again, completely separate to the website. In fact, unrelated.

The Startup Ideas Podcast
How to build a $20m sales funnel from scratch

And you're not even going to see the same branding on them. Our funnels, which I'll show you one in a minute, they basically could start as a Facebook ad or a YouTube video that leads you into a super focused page, which tells you one thing and has one call to action. And the whole goal of that funnel is to do one thing. And that one thing could be book a call with us. or buy something.

The Startup Ideas Podcast
How to build a $20m sales funnel from scratch

And you're not even going to see the same branding on them. Our funnels, which I'll show you one in a minute, they basically could start as a Facebook ad or a YouTube video that leads you into a super focused page, which tells you one thing and has one call to action. And the whole goal of that funnel is to do one thing. And that one thing could be book a call with us. or buy something.

The Startup Ideas Podcast
How to build a $20m sales funnel from scratch

And you're not even going to see the same branding on them. Our funnels, which I'll show you one in a minute, they basically could start as a Facebook ad or a YouTube video that leads you into a super focused page, which tells you one thing and has one call to action. And the whole goal of that funnel is to do one thing. And that one thing could be book a call with us. or buy something.

The Startup Ideas Podcast
How to build a $20m sales funnel from scratch

So it's usually one of two things. And we always have a couple of funnels running at the same time. But just a first conceptual thing is that funnels and websites are not the same thing. And actually, what's really complicated in this world is that people who make really nice websites are generally not good at making funnels at all. Because funnels require really good copywriting.

The Startup Ideas Podcast
How to build a $20m sales funnel from scratch

So it's usually one of two things. And we always have a couple of funnels running at the same time. But just a first conceptual thing is that funnels and websites are not the same thing. And actually, what's really complicated in this world is that people who make really nice websites are generally not good at making funnels at all. Because funnels require really good copywriting.

The Startup Ideas Podcast
How to build a $20m sales funnel from scratch

So it's usually one of two things. And we always have a couple of funnels running at the same time. But just a first conceptual thing is that funnels and websites are not the same thing. And actually, what's really complicated in this world is that people who make really nice websites are generally not good at making funnels at all. Because funnels require really good copywriting.

The Startup Ideas Podcast
How to build a $20m sales funnel from scratch

And mostly, it's about conversion optimization for that specific flow. So for us, it's called booking generation. Whereas someone who's really good at making a website is maybe very good at visual design, UX design, but they can't tell you how to make money and how to sell stuff. And yeah, a funnel is just a completely, totally different separate thing to a website.

The Startup Ideas Podcast
How to build a $20m sales funnel from scratch

And mostly, it's about conversion optimization for that specific flow. So for us, it's called booking generation. Whereas someone who's really good at making a website is maybe very good at visual design, UX design, but they can't tell you how to make money and how to sell stuff. And yeah, a funnel is just a completely, totally different separate thing to a website.

The Startup Ideas Podcast
How to build a $20m sales funnel from scratch

And mostly, it's about conversion optimization for that specific flow. So for us, it's called booking generation. Whereas someone who's really good at making a website is maybe very good at visual design, UX design, but they can't tell you how to make money and how to sell stuff. And yeah, a funnel is just a completely, totally different separate thing to a website.

The Startup Ideas Podcast
How to build a $20m sales funnel from scratch

Does that kind of first step make sense?

The Startup Ideas Podcast
How to build a $20m sales funnel from scratch

Does that kind of first step make sense?

The Startup Ideas Podcast
How to build a $20m sales funnel from scratch

Does that kind of first step make sense?

The Startup Ideas Podcast
How to build a $20m sales funnel from scratch

Yes, and I don't even know how people... When I meet somebody, let's say somebody who's selling an in-person training... when I talk to them and they're like, how the hell are you selling out these $14,000 training sessions? Like, because what they do, actually, this is a great example, a really great example of how someone else does something versus how we would do it.

The Startup Ideas Podcast
How to build a $20m sales funnel from scratch

Yes, and I don't even know how people... When I meet somebody, let's say somebody who's selling an in-person training... when I talk to them and they're like, how the hell are you selling out these $14,000 training sessions? Like, because what they do, actually, this is a great example, a really great example of how someone else does something versus how we would do it.

The Startup Ideas Podcast
How to build a $20m sales funnel from scratch

Yes, and I don't even know how people... When I meet somebody, let's say somebody who's selling an in-person training... when I talk to them and they're like, how the hell are you selling out these $14,000 training sessions? Like, because what they do, actually, this is a great example, a really great example of how someone else does something versus how we would do it.

The Startup Ideas Podcast
How to build a $20m sales funnel from scratch

And I'll just give you the exact example of this right now, like visually. I think it's important to see this stuff first before going into like the nitty gritty details. So if you were an outsider and you were guessing how we make money with, let's say, let's just choose our online training, right? So our online training is called Workshopper Master. It's like a mixture of online and coaching.