Jonathan Courtney

They also publish a lot of different video games. They're like an aspirational company to me. I love companies that are just like doing lots of weird stuff.

They also publish a lot of different video games. They're like an aspirational company to me. I love companies that are just like doing lots of weird stuff.

Jason was on the pod.

Jason was on the pod.

Jason was on the pod.

Very cool.

Very cool.

Very cool.

We're very aligned on that.

We're very aligned on that.

We're very aligned on that.

Yes, Jason is great. We actually just moved from using Slack, Asana, and Notion back to using Basecamp after a four-year break. And it is honestly refreshing. I started to have the feeling that my company was becoming like a chat room, basically. We were just on Slack all day. You just open Slack and you have all these red dots. And what I presented to my team last Monday, two weeks ago, was...

Yes, Jason is great. We actually just moved from using Slack, Asana, and Notion back to using Basecamp after a four-year break. And it is honestly refreshing. I started to have the feeling that my company was becoming like a chat room, basically. We were just on Slack all day. You just open Slack and you have all these red dots. And what I presented to my team last Monday, two weeks ago, was...

Yes, Jason is great. We actually just moved from using Slack, Asana, and Notion back to using Basecamp after a four-year break. And it is honestly refreshing. I started to have the feeling that my company was becoming like a chat room, basically. We were just on Slack all day. You just open Slack and you have all these red dots. And what I presented to my team last Monday, two weeks ago, was...

Let's not become a company that talks about doing stuff all the time and talks about making stuff all the time. And let's just go back to being a company that makes stuff. And so, yeah, I feel like Basecamp's interface is more built for just working on projects instead of talking about working on projects. In fact, it's actually quite hard to just have open dialogues within Basecamp, the product.

Let's not become a company that talks about doing stuff all the time and talks about making stuff all the time. And let's just go back to being a company that makes stuff. And so, yeah, I feel like Basecamp's interface is more built for just working on projects instead of talking about working on projects. In fact, it's actually quite hard to just have open dialogues within Basecamp, the product.

Let's not become a company that talks about doing stuff all the time and talks about making stuff all the time. And let's just go back to being a company that makes stuff. And so, yeah, I feel like Basecamp's interface is more built for just working on projects instead of talking about working on projects. In fact, it's actually quite hard to just have open dialogues within Basecamp, the product.

And this is annoying some of my team, but I love it.

And this is annoying some of my team, but I love it.

And this is annoying some of my team, but I love it.