Jonathan Swan
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first heard Jul 2026
last heard 19 Jul
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The Rest Is Politics: Leading · 198. How Trump’s Imperial Presidency Really Works · 19 Jul 2026
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We interviewed Stephen Miller, for example, in 2023.
a long interview we did with him about the immigration plan for the second term.
He laid out in fine detail everything that we're seeing now.
So he had a vision.
You had people like Russ Vogt, the budget director, who had a vision for trying to dismantle what they would call the deep state, the administrative state, you know, mass firing.
So it's not...
just the total circus chaos.
It's all things at once.
And that's why what we try to do in the book is show it's a nuanced picture.
As crazy as it can seem, it's more textured.
I'm not sure there's anyone who doesn't have his number.
I don't even think that's a disputable premise.
The counterfactual, if he had won the 2020 election, he would have had to deal with COVID was still raging.
There was global inflation.
Every developed economy in the world was suffering global inflation.
He was already pretty unpopular.
He was on an expedited timeline to withdraw from Afghanistan.
every likelihood it would have been just as chaotic as the biden withdrawal you know he would have hobbled potentially you can never know for certain what would have happened but the very good chance he would have hobbled through that term uh reacting to events you know unpopular not being able to really marshal things together instead he has four years where he gets built up as this
almost mythological figure through surviving four indictments, becoming a martyr, the two assassination attempts.
Biden was the biggest gift you could ever imagine to Donald Trump.
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