Joseph Cox

And it's like, I'm out.

I'm to zero.

And he's gone from this incredibly prolific drug smuggler to like a mess, basically.

And it's not just Microsoft who is losing shipments.

Some of his associates are having their drugs seized as well.

There's even one point where Microsoft has introduced a colleague to the platform.

He, in turn, gets more friends onto a norm, and they're raided immediately.

And there's just something off, and some people believe it's the phones.

and they say there has to be something wrong with these devices, and Microsoft just won't hear it.

He believes Anom is completely secure.

He just blames other people and says they must be a rat or a snitch.

For him, Anom is never the problem.

The U.S.

government was the secret venture capitalist and puppet master and manager of Anom for its entire existence.

So in 2018, the FBI shut down an encrypted phone company called Phantom Secure.

It had, you know, 7,000 to 10,000 users.

It was very popular, very prolific.

The Sinaloa drug cartel used it.

Biker gangs in Australia did as well.

And when the FBI shut that down, they tried to get a backdoor into the company.