Joseph Robertson

It's a big problem for them right now, as well as having no donors.

But the youth I always look towards more as an indicator of where they're going to go,

I saw one quite large Conservative influencer who is still in the Conservative Party and still in her 20s saying on Twitter the other day that, you know, she just hates the fact that she's going to have to eventually follow Robert Jenrick, because that's what she always said she would do.

But, you know, she's not yet ready to make that jump.

And I said, well, supporting the Tory party right now is rather like supporting your local football team.

But in reality, they've moved stadium and they now play 3,000 miles away.

And I think that's basically what most of them are facing is this attachment to the brand without being able to actually be part of it.

Yeah, I mean, it's, you know, it could be any of them at this stage, I'll be quite frank.

I mean, you know, there are some, of course, that simply won't be allowed into the party because of their past baggage or political inclinations.

And that's, you know, like I said, reform, whatever people may throw at it, it's very much out to destroy the Tory party, not simply let it abscond and enter.

Nigel was completely aware

when you had essentially Tories infiltrating the Brexit party and then tearing it down from the inside.

He will not let that happen again, I'm quite confident.

at now is perhaps who would be most aligned with the Tory MPs who have already joined reform in Danny Kruger and Robert Jenrick.

And if you look backwards, you know, I'm going to list some names, I don't necessarily think all of these will jump ship.

But I think the ones that would be most aligned would be people like Esther McVeigh, Soweta Braverman,

to an extent younger MPs like Jack Rankin, obviously I mentioned Katie Lamb.

And then you also have to look at some of the old stalwarts and wonder whether or not they're thinking about it.

So Sir John Hayes would be another who is

are concerned.