Josh Boerman

Like what this is right now is trivial compared to what's to come.

So they don't even...

yeah yeah yeah i think that's where she is coming from here and i think you're also right that it's like she's sort of trying to do like a have it both ways where it's like she's giving credence to the like oh you know like she can pivot based off of whatever side sort of wins out culturally here i know this is a loaded term and i'm going to use it anyways because like we don't really have a replacement there's this specific kind of centrist pick me

i i think she is also just very good at reading the internet like the the mood of the internet i mean just looking back at some of her earlier posts she was sort of on the forefront of like that chungus mindset yes and then and then the chungus mindset is like such a good like to write just i want to be i i want to be chungus maxing as hard as i can actually i chungus maxing

And I think like she was able to like get that Chungus mindset.

She was on the forefront of that.

And then right as around 2016, 2015, it sounds like right as sort of like this new fascism sort of esoteric nihilism is sort of ascendant among a certain section of the online and just like society generally.

She was also first to that wave.

She can really read the room.

Yeah.

Just day to day.

It's like, I have to fucking think about Ayla.

And now the US government does it.

Yeah.

But, like, when the U.S.

Someone could easily make a through line, some argument, some paper, a book about ISIS posting online to Donald Trump's second term posting online.

There's a through line there.

They would do it.

Yeah, they would do it.

There's like monetary links over the decades from those to today.