Josh Welch

I agree, and I think he did provide some context for what he was saying.

I think you did. I have to give a lot of deference to him. He's been in the trenches and doing this with the very top people for years. I do take a little bit of exception to the messaging aspect of this. I think you can be in that arena for so long and sort of lose sight of what people in Hugo or rural parts of the country think about certain things because, you know, he's in Chicago.

I think you did. I have to give a lot of deference to him. He's been in the trenches and doing this with the very top people for years. I do take a little bit of exception to the messaging aspect of this. I think you can be in that arena for so long and sort of lose sight of what people in Hugo or rural parts of the country think about certain things because, you know, he's in Chicago.

I think you did. I have to give a lot of deference to him. He's been in the trenches and doing this with the very top people for years. I do take a little bit of exception to the messaging aspect of this. I think you can be in that arena for so long and sort of lose sight of what people in Hugo or rural parts of the country think about certain things because, you know, he's in Chicago.

Yeah, it's different. It's different. The rules are different that they're playing by and the messaging is going to have to be different. Right.

Yeah, it's different. It's different. The rules are different that they're playing by and the messaging is going to have to be different. Right.

Yeah, it's different. It's different. The rules are different that they're playing by and the messaging is going to have to be different. Right.

You're welcome. I am your tree hugger who wants to fist fight a MAGA.

You're welcome. I am your tree hugger who wants to fist fight a MAGA.

You're welcome. I am your tree hugger who wants to fist fight a MAGA.

Thank you all for having me, Pumps. I hope that you're safe and sound in bed, that you get better. The podcast missed you today. Thank you all for having me.

Thank you all for having me, Pumps. I hope that you're safe and sound in bed, that you get better. The podcast missed you today. Thank you all for having me.

Thank you all for having me, Pumps. I hope that you're safe and sound in bed, that you get better. The podcast missed you today. Thank you all for having me.

Um... sequin. Is it sequin?

Um... sequin. Is it sequin?

Um... sequin. Is it sequin?

Bye-bye.

Bye-bye.

Bye-bye.