Justin Richmond

So that song was really personal. Exhale was more from watching the movie. Watching the movie. You don't necessarily have to write from personal experience. You can, but you can watch others.

So that song was really personal. Exhale was more from watching the movie. Watching the movie. You don't necessarily have to write from personal experience. You can, but you can watch others.

You can hear all of my conversation with Babyface in the Broken Record episode that we're going to link to in the show notes. There's so much more to it, including how some of his biggest influences were singer-songwriters like James Taylor and the Beatles. Coming up after the break, Pushkin producer Ben Atta-Paffrey tells Leah about writing his own love song.

You can hear all of my conversation with Babyface in the Broken Record episode that we're going to link to in the show notes. There's so much more to it, including how some of his biggest influences were singer-songwriters like James Taylor and the Beatles. Coming up after the break, Pushkin producer Ben Atta-Paffrey tells Leah about writing his own love song.

Malcolm Gladwell is a best-selling author, the host of Revisionist History, and Pushkin's resident country music aficionado. When I heard we were doing a Valentine's Day music episode, I knew we were going to have to get a stake.

Malcolm Gladwell is a best-selling author, the host of Revisionist History, and Pushkin's resident country music aficionado. When I heard we were doing a Valentine's Day music episode, I knew we were going to have to get a stake.

And no piano to lift their spirits.

And no piano to lift their spirits.

Yeah, I'm looking at this church. I'm like, this is Roy Orbison. They're all Church of Christ. They're all Church of Christ. Loretta Lynn. Woody Guthrie.

Yeah, I'm looking at this church. I'm like, this is Roy Orbison. They're all Church of Christ. They're all Church of Christ. Loretta Lynn. Woody Guthrie.

So stands to reason, then, that, like, in the continuum of, you know, when it comes to love songs and the continuum of sort of emotions that go along with love, country music would fall more on the side of...

So stands to reason, then, that, like, in the continuum of, you know, when it comes to love songs and the continuum of sort of emotions that go along with love, country music would fall more on the side of...

sad over a breakup, sad over unrequited love, sad because I'm in a marriage that I don't want to be in, but I'm still in love with my high school sweetheart or whatever, you know, whatever those songs are that these sad kind of loves not going right or breaking up.

sad over a breakup, sad over unrequited love, sad because I'm in a marriage that I don't want to be in, but I'm still in love with my high school sweetheart or whatever, you know, whatever those songs are that these sad kind of loves not going right or breaking up.

It is like- So petty.

It is like- So petty.

Yeah, they're not enough in the details in rock.

Yeah, they're not enough in the details in rock.

So he's saying that you left me to be with him. He's saying Dallas with a level of disdain.

So he's saying that you left me to be with him. He's saying Dallas with a level of disdain.