Katriona O'Sullivan

She has a dark space in her chest and then...

And her mum has one and her nanny has one.

And it's lovely now.

I'm really proud of it.

It's for teachers, not for children.

Yeah, so my business now is talking.

So I go and talk around the world and it's to teachers.

So I fly in and out of England, America, and I literally do teachers...

And I have like 10 lessons for them on how they can change a child's life.

And it's all about reminding them that they are the light, basically.

So you are a literary.

Well, I wouldn't say I'm literary.

You need to understand the different layers.

Come on.

So literary fiction or literary writing is a particular genre.

So I am definitely not literary and any literary authors listening, I'm not trying to own that space because I suppose I've written memoir.

And then my fiction, I'd say, will probably be popular fiction rather than literary.

Literary is a particular style, which is really intellectual and kind of highfalutin.

So you could be that person.

Yeah, maybe.