Kevin McCloud

We've stayed there.

Yeah.

Really, really brilliant.

And we were, same thing, trying to look for a PowerPoint outside.

And I said, John, did you put a PowerPoint out here?

And it wasn't like he took it personally.

He just shrugged and went, whatever, which I just loved.

He just, no, and then just walked off on me.

Yeah.

Which I think is just fantastic.

Yeah, but today it's about his latest obsession, which is a beach house.

in the Melbourne beachside suburb of Anglesey, which is not far from Geelong.

He had an old house there for quite some time and then he decided to, what Canani described as, get rid of it and bring on the John Wardle experience.

And it is exquisite.

He's pushed himself to the limit to create a space that not only works for him and his family, which is incredibly beautiful and it's actually incredibly practical.

But it ticks a lot of boxes for him and his desires and needs to keep pushing forward in terms of not only craftsmanship, but also ideas.

so particular exacting you can feel the joy and the thought and it's an incredible home and what I really liked about this conversation he's very personal about his own thought process design process and what he gains from not just the things that he creates but the collaborations that are big for him and the people that he meets and the worlds that open up because he is curious about creating things

No, no, no.

John is a lover of craft.

You know, I get that from all the things that you design, both big and small.