Kevin McCloud

And we're looking around, we're on a table that you've designed.

If you were physically making things, which one of the crafts would be yours?

Oh, I was going to say Bunnings there for a second.

I think you're more proud of...

your buildings than most other architects and i think the way you communicate that's really interesting but also speaking of other architects who have got to a career like you've had where you've got a lot of commercial buildings these incredibly successful and very popular and well-used university buildings and then they often lose the ability to design residential architecture

I don't know why, or when they do, they look like mini commercial buildings, but you haven't lost that at all.

John Andrews, the great Sydney architect who had extraordinary commercial buildings, he did two houses and he said,

They're too hard.

And it seems ludicrous.

That's so nice, isn't it?

Oh, what's that music?

Oh, that's the music that they play here at Space Furniture, you know, background music.

No, no, no, no.

Oh, look over there.

Look at that.

I love that chair, Kevin.

I'm so obsessed.

Do you know, the idea came to him while he was in the shower, and the very first version was vacuum-packed flat, and when they unwrapped it, it slowly expanded to the delight of the audience.

I can't remember, what award did we give you?

There must have been the International Award and I had to write the citation.