Kim Leadbetter

And I think that's probably how things have played out.

And she was heavily involved in the campaign.

I mean, I was sorting through some things recently and I found some of the things that she had with her on the day she was killed and her Better In t-shirt was in there, crumpled up in her bag, which I hadn't sort of been near for 10 years.

She'd been out campaigning that morning in the constituency to remain.

But the atmosphere around it was just

It just wasn't a good feeling.

I remember seeing the signs outside Parliament when MPs were trying to walk in and they were being mobbed in the street.

I thought, this does not feel safe and it does not feel like a good place to be as a country.

And then what happened was we were sort of pushed into camps very quickly.

We were sort of here or there.

Families, friendships.

And I think a lot of those divisions have not been healed.

That is just so sad.

And I think that has continued.

and being replicated on a range of issues.

And this is one thing that I get really sort of frustrated about.

Most things are not black and white.

Most things are not either here or there.

And most people are not here or there.

Most people are somewhere in the middle, you know, weighing things up.