Kim Leadbetter

But sadly, the media often, social media particularly, pushes us to the extremes and it pushes us to take a position.

And that is really dangerous.

But it's easier, and it's easier for some politicians to say to people, it's simple, just pick a side.

And actually, I can't think of many issues in life where it is simple.

I mean, again, after Joe's murder, I probably wasn't processing very much at all.

So I have a recollection of that kind of climate and that environment.

And I do remember that particular poster.

But again, that feeds into what we were just saying.

That isn't what Brexit was ever about.

And people were made to think it was, rightly or wrongly.

And they were making decisions differently.

on information that I don't believe was accurate, it just wasn't.

And the 350 million pounds on the side of the bus for the NHS was another example of that, and that's never happened.

So I don't mind whatever opinions people hold, that's absolutely their prerogative, but

Let's have informed opinions based on facts.

I mean, that has got worse.

I've read so many things that are just not true, just not accurate.

But once it's out there, it's out there.

And the question is what we can do about that.

And that, I suppose, is my focus looking forward to the next sort of 10 years, how we can pull back from that misinformation, disinformation, polarisation, and what responsibility we've all got to play in that.