Kim Leadbetter

I mean, again, I didn't really know what day it was at that time.

I probably wasn't shocked because...

You know, I was in an area where there was a lot of people who were clearly going to vote to leave.

Right.

And maybe there was some complacency within the Remain campaign that, oh, it'll all be all right in the end.

I mean, looking back, there was quite a bit of complacency, wasn't there?

Yeah.

And that is something I've really taken with me into politics.

You've got to listen to people.

And you can't just label people, you know, because they are basing their views on their lived experience.

They're basing their views on things they've been told, whether that's true or not true.

But what you can't do is dismiss people

And we, I think, as a society, have got to be more open to listening to people who might have different opinions to us.

And it feeds into the words that Jo said in Parliament about having more in common.

Yes, I do believe we have more in common than that which divides us.

But actually, where we do disagree, let's explore that.

And if your life isn't going very well,

Let's look at why that is.

Let's not just try and find someone to blame for that.

Because what we do is we blame people who don't look like us.