Kris Dehnert

Like so, number one, something you just said, people think, well, stop because that does not matter.

What you think is so irrelevant,

Like, it doesn't matter at all.

You can have an idea, but that's it.

And then you put it out there, and you get real-world feedback.

You know, Mr. Wonderful, take the dog out back and shoot it, right?

Take it behind the barn, man, sometimes.

But, like, you got to rely on feedback.

And, actually, that's what happened with Randall.

When he gave me the mug, I was like, that's kind of goofy, I think.

But he's, like, carried it around for a week.

It took me, like, three days.

I carried it around.

I was like, all right, dude, you're right.

I was wrong.

Let's go.

Thank God I wasn't chock full of ego at this time where I was like, no, that's stupid and I know everything and walked away.

I would have missed out on a tremendous opportunity.

So gamification and I feel like gamification for interaction is always going to be relevant and I think it comes down to a couple of things.

It's the average person's