Kristen Abelon

But what I did was to try to create something that's clean that could be on an average retail spot.

But also it doesn't look intimidating.

No, and I think that's the biggest problem.

I think that when you go into the cannabis space at a dispensary, and although these dispensaries are beautiful, I mean, some of them are like... Apple stores.

Yeah, yes.

And I'm like, what the heck?

It's like, huh?

I was like, hey, can I just go back to Santa Ana and just go, like, you know, in the middle of nowhere to get the best weed?

Yeah, you know, but it's still intimidating to a lot of people because still nobody really wants anybody to know that they're using it.

So the goal is to keep something that was super clean, something that could be on a retail shelf.

You don't feel intimidated by it, and it gives you all the basic information you need to know, but you go to the website, and it really can educate you on it.

It's hivemindrefinery.com.

Hivemindrefinery.

Yeah.

pretty much you know so originally starting in Arizona and then Nevada came online and went out there spoke at a couple symposiums they really it was a good old boy town like there was definitely some side deals and stuff like that but I was able to do a lot of consulting do business plans for people to get those licenses and then I was just like wow like I

look at all these places opening up.

This is great.

You know, I even had an attorney.

He was working on potentially being able to cross state lines if you are a legal state to state.

So, I mean, hopefully, I know it's going to be hard to get it regulated federally.