Kristin Demoranville

And then it takes into account mental health because nobody wants to be a chief information security officer now because of this, because it's, you know, you're now your livelihood and other things are on the line, uh, in terms of security personnel that are in the food industry, the great people they're doing what they can. A lot of them didn't come out of food production.

And then it takes into account mental health because nobody wants to be a chief information security officer now because of this, because it's, you know, you're now your livelihood and other things are on the line, uh, in terms of security personnel that are in the food industry, the great people they're doing what they can. A lot of them didn't come out of food production.

They came out of finance or healthcare. They're still learning the ropes, which I think is great that you're learning it on the job. But at the same time, you need to surround yourself with community that knows. And I find that there's a lot of silos there. And that becomes difficult. Even me and my specialization, I sometimes can't get close to them either. So that's... That's hard.

They came out of finance or healthcare. They're still learning the ropes, which I think is great that you're learning it on the job. But at the same time, you need to surround yourself with community that knows. And I find that there's a lot of silos there. And that becomes difficult. Even me and my specialization, I sometimes can't get close to them either. So that's... That's hard.

And I hope that breaks eventually that we can have more community in this space, because you could tell that the cyber community was quite interested in what we were talking about. There was definitely interest and excitement around it and good probing questions.

And I hope that breaks eventually that we can have more community in this space, because you could tell that the cyber community was quite interested in what we were talking about. There was definitely interest and excitement around it and good probing questions.

But overarching, it's going to take, I think, quite a bit to get people to start switching their mindset and incorporating a more systems thinking approach to the world that they work in, because most people just do their job and go home. They don't care. But this is why I really love working with both of you and the teams that surround you is because it's personal for all of us.

But overarching, it's going to take, I think, quite a bit to get people to start switching their mindset and incorporating a more systems thinking approach to the world that they work in, because most people just do their job and go home. They don't care. But this is why I really love working with both of you and the teams that surround you is because it's personal for all of us.

We definitely take this into our lives in a different way. And we think about the people that are around us. And I'm really grateful that I know that group of people because it gives me the fuel I need to keep moving. So I don't want this all to sound like doom and gloom. There's a lot of really good people doing work on the ground.

We definitely take this into our lives in a different way. And we think about the people that are around us. And I'm really grateful that I know that group of people because it gives me the fuel I need to keep moving. So I don't want this all to sound like doom and gloom. There's a lot of really good people doing work on the ground.

And there's going to be even more of us coming down the pipeline as the generations catch on. Andrew, I want to give you a chance to comment on the concept of doing nothing as a high cost.

And there's going to be even more of us coming down the pipeline as the generations catch on. Andrew, I want to give you a chance to comment on the concept of doing nothing as a high cost.

Sure. Go for it. We'll get it on record right now.

Sure. Go for it. We'll get it on record right now.

I wanted to take a moment to thank all of you who have listened, subscribed, shared, and supported the show over the past year. This episode is the second last of the year and is also the second to last of season one of the show. I am beyond grateful to share also that the podcast was voted the most influential podcast of 2024 at the Cybersecurity Marketing Conference.

I wanted to take a moment to thank all of you who have listened, subscribed, shared, and supported the show over the past year. This episode is the second last of the year and is also the second to last of season one of the show. I am beyond grateful to share also that the podcast was voted the most influential podcast of 2024 at the Cybersecurity Marketing Conference.

After a year of hard work and incredible conversations, this recognition is a true honor, and I have even more planned for season two, so definitely stay tuned. Before jumping back in, I wanted to inform you about an upcoming event, the Cyber Biosecurity Summit of 2025. BioISAC and John Hopkins have joined forces to host the two-day conference in Laurel, Maryland, February 25th and 26th, 2025.

After a year of hard work and incredible conversations, this recognition is a true honor, and I have even more planned for season two, so definitely stay tuned. Before jumping back in, I wanted to inform you about an upcoming event, the Cyber Biosecurity Summit of 2025. BioISAC and John Hopkins have joined forces to host the two-day conference in Laurel, Maryland, February 25th and 26th, 2025.

The summit will bring together biotechnology, biosecurity, and cybersecurity professionals to explore the intersection of these critical fields and strategies for building a safe, secure future. The call for speakers is now open. Please submit a proposal if you have insights, research, and engaging interactive ideas to share. The link is in the show notes.

The summit will bring together biotechnology, biosecurity, and cybersecurity professionals to explore the intersection of these critical fields and strategies for building a safe, secure future. The call for speakers is now open. Please submit a proposal if you have insights, research, and engaging interactive ideas to share. The link is in the show notes.