Kristin Demoranville

So the government's paying attention to it, which is good. Or governments, I should say. We're a global audience here. But do we have the right skill sets? And how do we get people to understand that this isn't just about necessarily protecting data? It's about safeguarding lives and livelihoods and food safety and security, which is a national global concern, honestly.

So the government's paying attention to it, which is good. Or governments, I should say. We're a global audience here. But do we have the right skill sets? And how do we get people to understand that this isn't just about necessarily protecting data? It's about safeguarding lives and livelihoods and food safety and security, which is a national global concern, honestly.

Just curious what your thoughts are on that.

Just curious what your thoughts are on that.

Fair point, fair point. And do you think that, and as I was listening to all of you talk, I was thinking about how stereotypically the agriculture community is very distrusting. They like to work with their own, they stay to their own. And now we have this external threat that's coming in that's making them be more scrupulous.

Fair point, fair point. And do you think that, and as I was listening to all of you talk, I was thinking about how stereotypically the agriculture community is very distrusting. They like to work with their own, they stay to their own. And now we have this external threat that's coming in that's making them be more scrupulous.

They have to think more about who's around and who's in their environment. But yet we are trying to break into different places. And I shouldn't use the term break in, but I did. And break in and have trust with these people to have them understand that technology is not as evil and daunting as it has to be. As long as you put safeguards in, you'll understand it.

They have to think more about who's around and who's in their environment. But yet we are trying to break into different places. And I shouldn't use the term break in, but I did. And break in and have trust with these people to have them understand that technology is not as evil and daunting as it has to be. As long as you put safeguards in, you'll understand it.

And there's people that are here to support you. How do we play the trust game here with agro-terrorism?

And there's people that are here to support you. How do we play the trust game here with agro-terrorism?

I'm assuming at some point there's probably going to be more of a formal verification that you could be like, do you have a blue check? Do you have the little red truck that they use in England? And, you know, those kind of things. Maybe at some point we'll have something like agro safe. I don't know.

I'm assuming at some point there's probably going to be more of a formal verification that you could be like, do you have a blue check? Do you have the little red truck that they use in England? And, you know, those kind of things. Maybe at some point we'll have something like agro safe. I don't know.

I'm just making things up now because it's such a big thing that people need to know on the fly if this is going to be trustworthy or not and not spoofed and not deep faked or any of the other terms that are out there. I do have a question because we're talking a lot about this. Are there been any other notable agro-terrorist incidents?

I'm just making things up now because it's such a big thing that people need to know on the fly if this is going to be trustworthy or not and not spoofed and not deep faked or any of the other terms that are out there. I do have a question because we're talking a lot about this. Are there been any other notable agro-terrorist incidents?

Let's just dive into that a little bit because I want to dissect a couple of them and how it happened, what happened, and how we can prevent it moving forward. And whoever wants to answer that's fine.

Let's just dive into that a little bit because I want to dissect a couple of them and how it happened, what happened, and how we can prevent it moving forward. And whoever wants to answer that's fine.

Absolutely. So going back to my original question, thank you for that, Andrew. Is there a specific scenario that sticks out in your mind that you're like, yeah, I'm never forgetting that one. It's the one I will always go to. It is an example of agroterrorism.

Absolutely. So going back to my original question, thank you for that, Andrew. Is there a specific scenario that sticks out in your mind that you're like, yeah, I'm never forgetting that one. It's the one I will always go to. It is an example of agroterrorism.

Absolutely. I mean, I'm sitting here and I because I've been in cybersecurity and operational technology for a long time, most things surprise me anymore. Most of the stuff you just said surprised me. Like I, I am, I am shocked and I know how bad humans can be, but like, wow, like that's a, that's a whole other level of.

Absolutely. I mean, I'm sitting here and I because I've been in cybersecurity and operational technology for a long time, most things surprise me anymore. Most of the stuff you just said surprised me. Like I, I am, I am shocked and I know how bad humans can be, but like, wow, like that's a, that's a whole other level of.