Kristin Demoranville

Cheaper to buy a hamburger at McDonald's than it is to buy three apples or whatever it is now. I think that we've got that kind of layer of crazy town as well to deal with. There's too many factors in here. And then if you chuck in the food safety aspect, how we're basically one breath away from some kind of foodborne illness at all times. It's kind of insanity to me.

Cheaper to buy a hamburger at McDonald's than it is to buy three apples or whatever it is now. I think that we've got that kind of layer of crazy town as well to deal with. There's too many factors in here. And then if you chuck in the food safety aspect, how we're basically one breath away from some kind of foodborne illness at all times. It's kind of insanity to me.

So it may not be as weird as you think.

So it may not be as weird as you think.

This is my opinion of that. And I am not a scientist working on this. I want to make this very clear, but it's probably being moved around by humans. So example would be if you walk into one facility and then you walk out and you go to another facility, you're probably taking that contaminant with you.

This is my opinion of that. And I am not a scientist working on this. I want to make this very clear, but it's probably being moved around by humans. So example would be if you walk into one facility and then you walk out and you go to another facility, you're probably taking that contaminant with you.

Recently, I was rereading some food safety training brief because I was curious what they were saying about this particular industry. And one of the things that jumped out at me, which is like such an aha moment, but yeah, that's like a dumb thing. Don't come to work if you're sick and you work in food. That makes sense to me. And I never thought about actually calling out.

Recently, I was rereading some food safety training brief because I was curious what they were saying about this particular industry. And one of the things that jumped out at me, which is like such an aha moment, but yeah, that's like a dumb thing. Don't come to work if you're sick and you work in food. That makes sense to me. And I never thought about actually calling out.

Yeah, please stay home. We don't, we don't, nobody wants to get sick. I think we all kind of learned that lesson in a really different way because of the pandemic, for sure. Regardless of where you sit on the spectrum of conspiracy around it, we all know that germs are past because humans touch things. We get them. We're taught that very young anyways.

Yeah, please stay home. We don't, we don't, nobody wants to get sick. I think we all kind of learned that lesson in a really different way because of the pandemic, for sure. Regardless of where you sit on the spectrum of conspiracy around it, we all know that germs are past because humans touch things. We get them. We're taught that very young anyways.

So I think part of it goes into this aspect as well with the contamination of all the food lately. I think everybody keeps asking me like, why do we have such listeria poisoning? Like all this E. coli, what's going on? And I said, you have to follow the trail, literally. You have to think about it in that, you know, holistic sense of where does it come from? And how is it moving? What are we doing?

So I think part of it goes into this aspect as well with the contamination of all the food lately. I think everybody keeps asking me like, why do we have such listeria poisoning? Like all this E. coli, what's going on? And I said, you have to follow the trail, literally. You have to think about it in that, you know, holistic sense of where does it come from? And how is it moving? What are we doing?

What are we not doing? And I think this is this is the part that scares me is because if that system's broken, how how exploitable is that? You know, that's what keeps me up at night is knowing we're a breath away from some type of foodborne illness because somebody, whether it's a nation state or some jerk, just wants to mess with our food.

What are we not doing? And I think this is this is the part that scares me is because if that system's broken, how how exploitable is that? You know, that's what keeps me up at night is knowing we're a breath away from some type of foodborne illness because somebody, whether it's a nation state or some jerk, just wants to mess with our food.

And I have sat in labs, George, ICSOT labs and watched people. production lines being manipulated and you didn't even know what happened.

And I have sat in labs, George, ICSOT labs and watched people. production lines being manipulated and you didn't even know what happened.

Literally, lights didn't change, it looked like everything was running fine, but yet on the output later on when you're watching the forensics data, it shows what they did, changed the pH by blah, blah, blah, and you have an entirely new product in front of you that hit the shelves and could hurt people. This is what, this is when I feel like, and I'm, this is again, a little bit conspiracy.

Literally, lights didn't change, it looked like everything was running fine, but yet on the output later on when you're watching the forensics data, it shows what they did, changed the pH by blah, blah, blah, and you have an entirely new product in front of you that hit the shelves and could hurt people. This is what, this is when I feel like, and I'm, this is again, a little bit conspiracy.

So just everybody bear with me. I don't think that security as a whole, cybersecurity as a whole is going to really take up notice on what's going on in the food industry until something really catac, like a catastrophe happens. Cause we are definitely the bandwagon group of. all this traffic happened and everybody all of a sudden has an opinion and is an expert on it.

So just everybody bear with me. I don't think that security as a whole, cybersecurity as a whole is going to really take up notice on what's going on in the food industry until something really catac, like a catastrophe happens. Cause we are definitely the bandwagon group of. all this traffic happened and everybody all of a sudden has an opinion and is an expert on it.