Kyal Van Der Leest
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first heard Mar 2025
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100% of what you inject ends up in circulation, and then your body's got to deal with that. That's why it's important to really source your injectable peptides, especially from compounding chemists. Knock on wood that Kennedy makes them all available again if he can do that.
Or if you do an oral one, then it's not good to have LPS ingested nor heavy metals, but at least the barrier of your gut is going to selectively... not let 100% of it into circulation. I believe heavy metals in a normal gut, only 0.1% of things like aluminum and mercury actually end up absorbed, which over time can definitely accumulate and become a problem.
But if you're taking a capsule, for example, you're not going to end up with 100 micrograms of of aluminium or mercury in your body. If you did it orally versus injectable, you will.
And there's so many people who detox heavy metals and yet will take peptides that are cheap and nasty and end up putting them back in potentially if they're getting them from really unreputable sources of which unfortunately, because of what you mentioned with the FDA, It's been plenty of them spawn up in the last sort of two years or so.
I would have thought Nat Nidham might have introduced you because she's a great personal friend and she's a huge advocate for peptides and she knows so much more about bioregulators than I do. I kind of stick to the peptides and she's the bioregulator queen of the podcasting space. So yeah, I'm glad that they're coming to the public knowledge.
And I think with people like Joe Rogan and the UFC and Gary Brecker and everyone's sort of talking about them now, it's fantastic. And even Eterna Health has started getting a lot of feedback what am I going to say, mainstream recognition for using them with celebrities, the Kardashians, like them or hate them, they're all using them.
And, you know, the LP1s are the gateway to them using all the other ones. So, you know, great. This is so much better to be using these compounds than pharmaceuticals or surgeries or, you know, medications that come with a plethora of side effects that lead to further medication necessity. And that's the Western model that I really hope and I'm optimistic that's starting to come crumbling down.
And that's kind of... Why I started Level Up is if something is going to come crumbling down, it needs to be replaced by something better. And Level Up, I'm hoping, will be one of the businesses, one of the companies that provides that better option or at least inspires another company or inspires the FDA or drug companies to go in that direction.
And I think we're already seeing that with peptides starting to be patented and used by pharmaceuticals. They know that these things are good. and are trying to make them proprietary property to keep their businesses alive.
But when things are naturally occurring like BPC, like the thymic peptides, most of the peptides, there's some synthetic ones, GLP ones are patentable because they aren't naturally occurring. They're modified from nature. The ones that are found naturally can't be patented.
And that's why the studies are really lacking because no one's going to spend two to three million dollars studying something that every single other company can be like, thank you. We're just going to use your data and make money out of it and be three million dollars better in budget to do so.
So but with people in, you know, in positions of power now, hopefully government spending will be a lot more targeted to things that can actually help public health.
is 100 a lot of these ingredients too i really respect and love the bodybuilder community because they're kind of guinea pig things for themselves and like it goes wrong quite a lot in them but they're the ones who are willing to take um that are in the park you the risk for their reward and we can learn a lot from biohackers who push it too much like i'm guilty of that in my 20s i was like i'm gonna do everything it doesn't matter
i'm young i'm fit i can do it and then i end up with adrenal burnout it's sort of like oh okay now i've learned my lesson i can then be wiser and not do that later on but um like all these peptides even small molecules like psalms like five ten years ago was so popular everyone was pushing and promoting things like rad 140 and m k677 and some of them might still have benefit for some people but
The risk of these things and what we've seen, not in animal studies, but just in repeated blood work, people's testosterone levels after RAD40 plummeting as if they'd just taken exogenous testosterone. Yeah, short-term benefit, long-term absolutely tanked T levels, and it might take you six months to restore it to half of what it used to be prior to taking it. Was it worth the risk? No.
Should you have asked more questions? Definitely. But that's like... regulations and government restrictions on compounds, I tend to be like, oh, that's really annoying. But at the same time, when there's very clear risk profiles to things, like they clearly have reason for it, that's good. But when peptides naturally are growing things, like in Australia, they made BPC-157 prescription only.
And their justification was because of its increased popularity, we are regulating it. Yep. Not because of risk. Yep. Popularity was their reason for scheduling it. And that is a ridiculous reason when something that's naturally made in your stomach acid that is healing everyone unanimously pretty much says that it has helped them in some way, shape or form.
When that ingredient is banned, yet paracetamol is still something you can buy. Sorry, acetaminophen is still something you can buy from our supermarkets. And Supplements that have horrible forms of zinc, sorry, iron that cause bleeding of the gut are prescribed by doctors still. Ferrous sulfate and ridiculously high doses.
There's just so many things that are allowed and prescribed and perpetuated by the medical system, yet peptides are the ones that come under scrutiny. It's a bit ridiculous. And then
schedules and things that have been pushed across the masses is a huge shift in consciousness happening i'm so happy that it's happening because i think that was our wake-up call the last few years and that's you know peptides are now coming out biohacking's become popular there's netflix documentaries with extremists that get all the traction but at least they might be a gateway to people
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