Lael Stone

And what do I want them to be?

I want them to be fierce women that have strong yeses and nos and that honor that and don't abandon themselves.

They're like, nah, that's not right for me.

This, you know, cause I took me a long time to learn how to get to there.

And I wonder, you know, having worked in television, which, you know, from the outside, you know, it looks all glamorous, but I can imagine is a pretty fickle industry.

And, and there is a lot of, we want you to be like this.

Like, how was that push-pull for you in, you know, learning to climb your boundaries and stay true to you?

How was that?

No.

Yeah.

That must have been an immense pressure, especially live television, just, you know, sometimes something comes out of your mouth and thinks, oh, I need to retract that, but you can't.

That would have been a lot of pressure in those moments just on.

Yeah, and it's not worth it, is it?

Like you just think there's no amount of money you're getting paid or accolades or anything that is going to come up to being in crappy situations or selling yourself out.

It's never, is it?

I mean, and that's one of the beautiful lessons you learn as you age, don't you?

You're like, I'm not willing to do that or I'm not going to abandon myself for that.

And all the things I often look back in my life of all the times I did do that because you think, oh, but –

it's this money or it's this thing or it's that thing.

And then you come out the other side and you're like, well, it's not worth it.