Lael Stone

And she was trying to, you know, like, and I'm listening to this interview going, oh, my God, she does it too?

There was something in it that made me go crazy.

you're also allowed to be nervous, right, and it's also okay if you have a freak out, because you're human, and there was something about listening to her say that, it's like it gave me permission to not judge myself in it, to go, you're doing something scary, that is okay, you are allowed to be vulnerable, and there's something very powerful in that, especially when you hear it from people who we can often look at and think, oh, they've got it together, or they're really accomplished.

And I think that's one of the reasons I wanted to do this podcast, is to talk to these really amazing, interesting people

who've achieved incredible things, who are also like, ah, here's my messiest bits, right?

This is what is real in these moments where I've got to do something and then I do it anyway.

And then that's the piece, isn't it?

Where you go, I can feel scared, that feels hard, I'm working through this piece.

And then you go and do it anyway and you keep growing and evolving.

And I think that I can – I relate to what you're saying there.

I think the –

When I look back in those times where if an opportunity came, I would just say yes, because I was like, oh my god, they're asking me and I'm just going to do it.

Even though it maybe didn't serve me in all the ways, there's something that comes with that maturity to be like, yeah, and you know, and this is what else I'm going to need.

And it's knowing or owning that value within ourselves, isn't it?

To be like...

Yeah, I am worth this and this is what it feels like.

And, you know, that's what I'm going to need to be able to do that.

I love that.

It's a good reminder.

Yes, 100%.