Lester Ryan Clark
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109 appearances
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first heard Aug 2024
last heard Oct 2024
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Yeah. Yeah. That is – I like what you just said though. In my desperate effort to hear my voice, I just started immediately talking. I like that you say that usually you would think that fear would be the bigger motivator and I think for a long time it was, that it has been. It worked. For lack of a better word, fear works. Yeah.
uh i'm still on green um but maybe that that button can only be pushed so long and then it just doesn't work anymore because nothing has burned down i am right my nation is not in decline and i was just outside on a walk i didn't catch fire once like not like that
Right. Yeah. This line, someone just remembered their print coupons and they're hidden somewhere deep in their purse. And I'm already line committed. So I'm not going to go somewhere.
No. No, I see what you're saying. No, it's not the way that I think of it. That would be more restraint.
No. But that's – yeah, I feel that patient is a very passive reaction to a fairly passive situation. It's more just like it's not – holding yourself back from beating someone up. It's just try not to get so annoyed at Ralph's. Like, that's it. Can you tell that I spend too much time at Ralph's?
What would be an example? And then how does that differ from restraint?
The interesting thing about kindness... Kindness slaps.
Well, it's exactly what you were talking about of fear only works so long that you can scare people into doing something. Or if you're nice to them, hopefully that will cause more empathy. And that just spreads and spreads because you are forced to realize it's not just you against the world.
I think it happens a lot more than we think it does. Mm-hmm. And I also think that showing a TikTok of someone being quiet and kind isn't as interesting as showing someone screaming at someone else in an airport. And so it makes it seem like society is coming apart at the seams all the time. And it's just really not.
There's something, I mean, there's something kind of nicely boring about being just sort of everyday positive. You don't have to be running around like Mr. Beast and buying Hummers for people. I don't actually know who Mr. Beast is. Does he like give away a bunch of money or something?
That's wonderful, but you don't even have to do that because that is such a concentrated thing. But one of the things, speaking of patience, and if we're saying that kindness is an offset of this, that I've been really trying to explore recently, not just because of this episode, is I guess it's mindfulness.
I don't know, like saying that word in myself, I don't seem like a very mindful person, but is when I start to feel impatient or start to feel like I'm getting frustrated, to step outside of it and go, wait, am I actually frustrated or am I just thinking I should be frustrated? Meaning, just because this line, someone butt in front of me, is that really making a deal?
Or is my sense of weird justice making it seem like I have the right to be mad, so I should be mad? Or who cares? Do I really, really feel this emotion? Or is it just that I'm supposed, that I'm afraid I'm supposed to feel it? I'm making it into a riddle. Does it make sense what I'm saying?
Oh, I guess I don't know.
No, that all makes a thousand percent sense. And... I like that there's a word for what that is. I'm just... Yeah, that's the kind of thing I'm trying to do. Not about that whole itch thing. That would make anyone insufferable. What if you had to say all of that out loud? And now the toe! And your partner's like, okay, Steve. The idea of someone...
is looking at their phone at a stoplight, doesn't see that the light changed. You give a little beep beep and then they go. But then you aren't allowed to go through the light. Yes. Your first reaction is, come on, this is unjust. And this is but then that's what I'm catching myself right away. And more and more is, oh, I don't care. Like, yeah, I'm not late.
one light cycle is not going to change anything. I'm sitting in an air conditioned car, listening to a podcast just because something didn't go exactly as it was supposed to be. Doesn't mean that I need to react or make me upset by it because it's fine.
Yeah, I can't hear what was going on in that car. There could have been two small kids screaming in the background. The parent was just trying to get a moment of peace on their phone. Or they had just been poisoned and were trying to call the hospital. And I'm like, beep, beep! Exactly.
Well, I agree with the Vox Populi in this one because it wasn't genuine. It was using people's emotions. People were really fighting for rights and feeling discriminated on by police. And someone thought that a good idea was to try to sell soda for it. It trivializes it. Yeah. There's something that just trivializes it too much that it's not genuine. There is no genuine. There is no empathy.
You have a model stepping off of a getting her hair done, walk across the street and hand a Pepsi to... someone who probably was just clubbing someone in the, in the back alley. And everyone is like, thanks soda. That's gross. I hate it. See, I agree. But I mean, that's just not the way to do it. That's, that seems like fake. What's a word for fake kindness. It's virtual disingenuity. Yeah.
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