Louise Jefferies

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999 appearances 4 recordings 1 series first heard May 2026 last heard 29 Jul

Louise Jefferies’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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So I think just as we, as women in particular, we use makeup or clothing to give ourselves more confidence.
I think maybe we take on slightly more confidence.
extroverted or slightly louder or more colourful personality skills to get over a sort of nervousness.
Yes, I do.
And the interesting thing when you mention designer suits is what I've learned is it is a mask.
It's a sort of mask, isn't it?
And it is that we need, we want to fit in.
Yeah, I think what I've learned, and maybe you only learned this over decades, is that it's more about who you are on the inside than what it looks like on the outside.
Because I think if you spot maybe a leader, we've talked about leadership pheasants, and that isn't about the quality of the cloth.
It's about the quality of the knowing yourself so that if you spill something on your suit and you have to put a T-shirt on, you're still the same person and it doesn't derail you.
Yeah, there's an element of both, certainly, isn't there?
I think personality, who we are underneath, but it's a very difficult conversation and deeper than how you have the qualifications to go, what is inherited, what you're born with and what comes from childhood experiences.
Yeah.
There is a lot of bias.
We're certainly aware of that.
I think becoming more aware of that.
So if you, I said difficult question for you, Susan, I'm going to challenge you here.
If you had to define leadership presence, how would you define that?
I think you're right.
It wasn't always the loudest.
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