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Lucas Swisher

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
675 total appearances

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Podcast Appearances

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Inside Coatue's $7BN Growth Fund: Why Price Matters Least | Why Mega Markets are the Most Important | How Mega Funds Can Still Do 5x Returns | How to Assess Durability of Revenue and Margins in AI with Lucas Swisher

Can this be a $10 billion plus public company?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Inside Coatue's $7BN Growth Fund: Why Price Matters Least | Why Mega Markets are the Most Important | How Mega Funds Can Still Do 5x Returns | How to Assess Durability of Revenue and Margins in AI with Lucas Swisher

That bar has changed.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Inside Coatue's $7BN Growth Fund: Why Price Matters Least | Why Mega Markets are the Most Important | How Mega Funds Can Still Do 5x Returns | How to Assess Durability of Revenue and Margins in AI with Lucas Swisher

in this new world because we are tackling much larger markets than we used to.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Inside Coatue's $7BN Growth Fund: Why Price Matters Least | Why Mega Markets are the Most Important | How Mega Funds Can Still Do 5x Returns | How to Assess Durability of Revenue and Margins in AI with Lucas Swisher

And so now that test is, can you be just an enduring public company?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Inside Coatue's $7BN Growth Fund: Why Price Matters Least | Why Mega Markets are the Most Important | How Mega Funds Can Still Do 5x Returns | How to Assess Durability of Revenue and Margins in AI with Lucas Swisher

And that may mean 50 billion of market cap.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Inside Coatue's $7BN Growth Fund: Why Price Matters Least | Why Mega Markets are the Most Important | How Mega Funds Can Still Do 5x Returns | How to Assess Durability of Revenue and Margins in AI with Lucas Swisher

It may mean 100 billion of market cap.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Inside Coatue's $7BN Growth Fund: Why Price Matters Least | Why Mega Markets are the Most Important | How Mega Funds Can Still Do 5x Returns | How to Assess Durability of Revenue and Margins in AI with Lucas Swisher

It really depends based on the stage.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Inside Coatue's $7BN Growth Fund: Why Price Matters Least | Why Mega Markets are the Most Important | How Mega Funds Can Still Do 5x Returns | How to Assess Durability of Revenue and Margins in AI with Lucas Swisher

But really, it's big idea first.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Inside Coatue's $7BN Growth Fund: Why Price Matters Least | Why Mega Markets are the Most Important | How Mega Funds Can Still Do 5x Returns | How to Assess Durability of Revenue and Margins in AI with Lucas Swisher

And then is the market absolutely yanking you into that giant market?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Inside Coatue's $7BN Growth Fund: Why Price Matters Least | Why Mega Markets are the Most Important | How Mega Funds Can Still Do 5x Returns | How to Assess Durability of Revenue and Margins in AI with Lucas Swisher

Do you feel that market pull such that that revenue curve and subsequently down the line, that earnings path is really achievable?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Inside Coatue's $7BN Growth Fund: Why Price Matters Least | Why Mega Markets are the Most Important | How Mega Funds Can Still Do 5x Returns | How to Assess Durability of Revenue and Margins in AI with Lucas Swisher

And so what you need to really believe is like, take this 50 million ARR 5 billion post type company.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Inside Coatue's $7BN Growth Fund: Why Price Matters Least | Why Mega Markets are the Most Important | How Mega Funds Can Still Do 5x Returns | How to Assess Durability of Revenue and Margins in AI with Lucas Swisher

You need to believe that someday you can get to 5 billion of revenue with 30% margin minimum growing really fast.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Inside Coatue's $7BN Growth Fund: Why Price Matters Least | Why Mega Markets are the Most Important | How Mega Funds Can Still Do 5x Returns | How to Assess Durability of Revenue and Margins in AI with Lucas Swisher

So what does that mean?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Inside Coatue's $7BN Growth Fund: Why Price Matters Least | Why Mega Markets are the Most Important | How Mega Funds Can Still Do 5x Returns | How to Assess Durability of Revenue and Margins in AI with Lucas Swisher

I better believe there's 50 billion of revenue to go get.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Inside Coatue's $7BN Growth Fund: Why Price Matters Least | Why Mega Markets are the Most Important | How Mega Funds Can Still Do 5x Returns | How to Assess Durability of Revenue and Margins in AI with Lucas Swisher

No, it's really fair.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Inside Coatue's $7BN Growth Fund: Why Price Matters Least | Why Mega Markets are the Most Important | How Mega Funds Can Still Do 5x Returns | How to Assess Durability of Revenue and Margins in AI with Lucas Swisher

And again, it's something we think about a lot.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Inside Coatue's $7BN Growth Fund: Why Price Matters Least | Why Mega Markets are the Most Important | How Mega Funds Can Still Do 5x Returns | How to Assess Durability of Revenue and Margins in AI with Lucas Swisher

The two things you want to consider when it comes to that, right?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Inside Coatue's $7BN Growth Fund: Why Price Matters Least | Why Mega Markets are the Most Important | How Mega Funds Can Still Do 5x Returns | How to Assess Durability of Revenue and Margins in AI with Lucas Swisher

And it's one of the reasons why, again, we love having a flexible mandate.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Inside Coatue's $7BN Growth Fund: Why Price Matters Least | Why Mega Markets are the Most Important | How Mega Funds Can Still Do 5x Returns | How to Assess Durability of Revenue and Margins in AI with Lucas Swisher

We are not tied to just being able to do a Series B at 300 post and like that's all we can do is because we can have almost this like rowboat that rows up and down the river.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Inside Coatue's $7BN Growth Fund: Why Price Matters Least | Why Mega Markets are the Most Important | How Mega Funds Can Still Do 5x Returns | How to Assess Durability of Revenue and Margins in AI with Lucas Swisher

Anytime we see something opportunistically that we think is the best risk adjusted opportunity at that moment, we can invest.