Lucy Biggers

And also the climate activists would say stuff like,

Well, we can't innovate our way out of this problem.

We can't innovate our way out of it.

I'm like, what?

We innovate our way out of every other problem ever.

But for some reason with climate, this nihilism was pushed to such a degree that they were like, no, they just want you to say we can have nuclear so you can keep consuming at the level that you want and keep capitalism the level that you want.

Yeah, that's what we want.

Yeah, I know.

I was like, yeah, sounds great.

But once you realize that the movement is founded by people who put the value of life on Earth and nature over humanity...

it makes sense.

Like they prioritize untouched nature and a perfect untouched earth over human flourishing.

And that is like the flip you need to switch and realize that the goal isn't untouched nature.

The goal is human flourishing.

And once you make that movement in your mind, you can still care about conservation.

You can still care about the animals and all these things and cutting down on pollution, but you need to prioritize humans

which the climate movement, its most ardent supporters, which is what I was part of, don't prioritize human life over, like, they want, like, an untouched, perfect planet from, like, before we were born.