Luke Thomas

There was one done, I think, in the, I want to say 2010, 2011.

There was an anonymous track and field survey.

And this is a world where they do like pretty aggressive testing.

And it asked anonymously, how many of you are on it now or have taken it recently?

And the answer was 40%.

Holy shit.

Now, that's also a world, again, where there is, relative to the NFL, NBA, or MLS or whatever, relative to that, a much higher degree of testing and surveillance.

So imagine a world where the guys have more money and there's less surveillance.

It is just naive to assume that the very best of the world are all not using, that they're all natural users.

Do they have incredible genetics?

Yes.

Are they, you know, savants in their sport?

Like Messi, is he a savant in his sport?

Of course he is.

LeBron, Ronaldo, whoever you want to pick.

They have basketball or football IQ in ways that we can never imagine.

And they are preeminent athletes.

But dude, like in baseball, there's 170 games a year.

In basketball, it's, what, more than 80.

And the NFL season's only – if you get eliminated, it's only 16 or 17.